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[edit] Destruction date

There are a few issues here. First, Wikipedia articles must be based on scholarly sources. You might have your opinion, and you might even be right, but that is not relevant for Wikipedia; see WP:Verify. Second, the only two scholarly sources that I know of for the archaeological date are Voigt and Muscarella (Keenan does not debate archaeology); neither of those cites the other (perhaps due to their close timing); so, based on available scholarly sources, all that can be said is that the archaeology-based date is disputed. Third, for radiocarbon, there is no scholarly source that I know of that disputes Keenan's work; hence the article should base its discussion on that. Fourth, for dendrochronology, there is no scholarly source that disputes the work of Kuniholm as reported by DeVries et al. (Keenan seems to have disputed this on his personal web site, but I do not believe that counts as a scholarly source).  81.158.197.6 (talk) 14:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

There's a lot of "I know" and "I believe" here for someone who isn't even logged in. The gist of the debate over dates, reflected in Voigt and in Muscarella, would certainly be a welcome addition. That there is debate is less fascinating for the Wikipedia reader. --Wetman (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] copyright issues

I have put a new version of the page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gordium/Temp
The new version is nowhere near as good as the old version, but at least it should avoid the problems with copyright. Hopefully, someone will improve it.
Opensensestep (talk) 18:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Attribution history

The new version of the article utilizes some text from the earlier version. Attribution history is required to comply with the licensing of GFDL. Specific attribution for the text, reflecting all additions of creative text, is as follows:

• Edit on 31 July 2004 by User:RecepY: "Capital of ancient Phrygia, modern Yassihüyük. It is located about 70-80 km southwest of modern Ankara (capital of Turkey) near town Polatli. The ancient city is also called Gordiyon in Turkey." contributed
• Edit on 17 March 2006 by User:Smyrniot: "Gordium was the capital of ancient Phrygia, modern Yassihüyük. It is located about 70-80 km southwest of modern Ankara (capital of Turkey), in the immediate vicinity of Polatlı district. The ancient city is also called Gordiyon in Turkey."
• Edit on 29 June 2007 by User:Johnpacklambert: "Gordium (Greek: Gordion) was the capital of ancient Phrygia. It was located at the site of modern Yassihüyük. It is located about 70-80 km southwest of modern Ankara (capital of Turkey), in the immediate vicinity of Polatlı district. The ancient city is also called Gordiyon in Turkey."
• Edit on 29 May 2008 by User:Wetman: "Gordium (Greek: Gordion, Turkish Gordiyon) was the capital of ancient Phrygia. It was located at the site of modern Yassihüyük, about 70-80 km southwest of Ankara (capital of Turkey), in the immediate vicinity of Polatlı district."

All other changes in the evolution of that text are minimal. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:38, 7 March 2009 (UTC)