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There must be more to plumbing than an Albert Einstein reference! How about using CCTV to check for rats? JFW | T@lk 21:03, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

The last link to plumbing quotes is an advertisement and should be removed. DJW2tone 13:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Plumbers in politics (White House SIU)

I'd like to see the info on the SIU moved to a stub page and for a disambiguation page to be created for both usages. I'll try to figure out how to do that myself if no one else feels inclined. - Kent Heiner (talk) 15:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I see there already is an article called "White House Plumbers." - Kent Heiner (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
How about moving that referenvce from the body of the article to a disambiguation link at the top because that would immediately move people searching to the correct article if they want white house plombers. LaidOff (talk) 16:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wealthy Plumbers

Plumbers are known to be unexpectedly well paid when one considers the blue collar nature of their work; perhaps some learned person might like to write a small discussion on this.


"If I would be a young man again and had to decide how to make my living, I would not try to become a scientist or scholar or teacher. I would rather choose to be a plumber in the hope to find that modest degree of independence still available under present circumstances." -Albert Einstein, The Reporter, 18 November 1954

Shortly after making this remark, the Plumbers and Steamfitters Union, A.F.L. in Washington, D.C. voted to grant Einstein an honorary membership. Einstein was reportedly well pleased with this honor. - reword if this is actually true??

The whole section about Einstein lacks a reference, so the entire section should be removed. Addhoc 12:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
  • It is mentioned here, here cites the quote from above, also listed on wikiquote. Isn't wikiquote a good enough source to use here? --Brianmc 17:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commercialism

I know it's tempting, but please do not add commercial, etc. content or links. 129.237.114.171 14:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regionalisation

The article as it currently stands is very US-centric. In the UK for instance a plumber deals with "potable (drinking) water, sewage, drainage" and hydronic heating but not generally "venting, heating and air-conditioning, or industrial process plant piping". Sheet lead work is also still part of the craft training for "Plumbing" although as likely to be carried out by a roofer as a plumber nowadays. Gas fitting is also a specialisation of plumbing (and commonly referred to as such).

The "organised labor"/"nonunion" and "Master Plumber" references are also not relevant everywhere outside the USA.


--John Stumbles 00:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I am from the US and I can tell you that generally it is NOT a plumber who who installs "venting, heating, and air-conditioning... piping." This is done either by a sheetmetal worker or heating and air worker. Perhaps this is a regional thing. ````


70.177.14.20 (talk) 05:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

In Canada, plumbers are responsible for potable and non potable water supplies, soil and waste drainage into the public systems, venting for said drainage, stormwater and rainwater drainage into the public systems, gasfitting for natural gas and propane. heating, including furnaces, boilers, hot water heaters and hydronics. At an industrial and public project level plumbers pipe for applications ranging from nuclear reactors to city sewers. Perhaps it would be best to include sections that specify responsibilities in various jurisdictions?

[edit] editorialising

There is absolutely no reason for this article to have beecome such an editorial catch-all. I removed some of the worst bits, but this article has essentially no references. No logic. It is sort of US-centric and then veers wildly away. Collect (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


I changed "he" back to "Master Plumber" as it was stated to be a gender bias word. The rest of the article still has way too much useless wordage regarding categories of pipefitter, gasfitter, toiletfitter, faucetfitter etc. Most people reading this article want internationally valid information, which this article fails to do. Collect (talk) 14:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
One editor is upset that UK centric material was editted. Best solution, I trust, is to put history of "plumber" as the lede, and separate UK and US sections, and allowing other countries to be represented. Thanks!Collect (talk) 12:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] illustration

The illustration seems to be of a person clearing a drain. Though this is one of the things plumbers do, it is also characteristically part of the work of much less skilled people. The usual work of plumbers is considerable more intricate than this, and it should be possible to find a more relevant PD illustration..09:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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